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Fanci`: Many are tired of long, drawn-out serves where every facet of a girl's body, mind, heart are presented for view.  What is a proper serve? Where should the emphasis lie (on displaying the girl, or her reaction to the Free who watches)? Is there a formula, like: Take Order, Prepare Order, Deliver Order .. in 3 posts? 6 posts? As many posts as possible in 10 minutes? 45 minutes? 

Grey0: YES, Fanci`

Fanci`: I have spent 50 minutes watching, commenting, "notes the graceful movements in the small servery" .. waiting for water. That is TOO long.

magic^cloud grins 

Grey0: indeed, Fanci`

JohnJ laughs

Grey0: puts hand up  recently, there was a girl who "served" me.  I was not in a very good mood that night.  and her serve was absoultely interminable.  I finally got fed up and just excused myself and left the room.  another time, the same gorl took over an hour to bring a slice of cake and a cup of tea

Korus`: I have seen many times that the Free will tell the girl serving to make it a "low" serve to speed things along.  this helps solve problems such as GreyO describes.  

{CSF}nyla: my Master feels much the same as Master Grey0..when he trained me...he believed the serves should be much shorter..but still can be elegant or slutty depending on the needs *s*....he feels a Free Person doesn't wish to wait for 45 mins for his blackwine, paga or whatever..but nyla has incurred the wrath of some sisters because of this training...
Is it incorrect to do a shorter one, but with all the proper things in...????

Grey0: the girl should be aware of the mood of the Free that she serves

Fanci`: another factor .. the state of the room .. whether its quiet and leisurely, or a fast pace

JohnJ: personally I like my blackwine before it becomes ice coffee... if I like an emphasis at all it's the very end of it. the actual serving and blessing.  short is fine with al the right elements.  if I want a high serve I ask for it so.. and then I could care less how cold the blackwine is.. it's the girls motions and actions I am interested in.  

a_slave: some girls forget who they serve, their focus becomes THE serve, not the one they serve

Fanci`: exactly .. the alabaster skin .. the taut hineys .. and the Free can just whistle while they wait ;)

JohnJ: the serve is for the Master not for the slave

Strummer: well... in My not ever too humble opinion....I'd like to paraphrase what My literature teacher told Me back in a previous lifetime.  a serve should be like a girl's slave silks..... 
short enough to keep a Man's attention... but long enough to still cover the subject ;)

Merigold? I just wanted to ask nyla about something she said: ".but nyla has incurred the wrath of some sisters because of this training..."
does she mean other kajira complain about her following her training?

{CSF}nyla: well in Camp we often have discussions.... nyla was trained by her Master to do as we have discussed...keep them short enough to cover the subject, but hmmmm good enough to keep the Free's attention & serve them well..nyla tried to explain that one night to some sisters....and a sister was quite irritated and said that a kajira should do the long intricate serves or not be a kajira *shrug*

Fanci`: nyla .. one has to use some common sense, I think .. and time/circumstances control one's actions
sometimes a Free just isn't in the mood to watch and interact for an hour .. they want it quick .. and probably that can be "deduced" by their responses

Merigold? I am not sure why you put so much weight on the opinions of some irritable fellow slave, but hey, that is my failure to proprely comprehend Gor

ayana would like to pose a question similar but regards to the Free
this one would like all's opinion on the Free's attention, what after the kajira does her best serve and the Master/Mistress pays no attention to it, is distracted.. what happens then?
what does the kajira do?
does she tell her Ubar?
does she go to an op?
does she keep quiet?

Morticia lifts hand to comment
to answer the question, that ayana posed:
there truly is no answer, you cant *make* a Free person do anything as you are kajira, no matter how much you may put into a serve, it is up to their discretion to comment on it, or simply thankyou, dont take it personally , as it may be something entirely beyond your control lilone

Korus`: a FP should not ignore a serve, but many times we have other duties thrust on us and cannot do many things at one time.

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